Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Reasons Romney Can’t Win

Just collecting a few reasons why Romney can't win the November election from pundits, bloggers, analysts, and conventional wisdom:

  1. Romney isn’t conservative so conservatives will stay home
  2. He’s also a flip-flopper
  3. Some Christians won’t vote for a Mormon
  4. Anti-Mormon rhetoric from the religious right will cause Mormon voters to stay home
  5. Romney started a company that sometimes laid off workers and outsourced jobs to other countries after he left
  6. He wrote the foundation of ObamaCare while he was governor of Massachusetts
  7. Contrary to conventional wisdom, undecided voters do NOT always break toward the challenger
  8. Everyone knows that Romney can’t win the youth or minority vote
  9. Romney is extremely rich and Democrats have successfully demonized anyone in the 1%
  10. While some people may have forgotten, the GOP held the country hostage over the debt ceiling in July 2011, so Romney is toast
  11. Five astrologers predicted an Obama win
Alternatively: Reasons Obama Can't Win

19 comments:

  1. 12. Gary Johnson will take a small, but possibly, important percentage of the independents away that would otherwise vote for the Republican candidate (especially in the swing states like Florida and Ohio).

    13. After five minutes of listening to Romney make a speech, many independents' mentally "check out."

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  2. Romney is extremely rich and Democrats have successfully demonized anyone in the 1%

    Isn't Obama in the top 1%?

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  3. CW
    12) Not sure how this is different from every election. The Libertarian candidate always takes half a percent or so from the Republican. But good addition to the list.

    13) Not just independents; most everyone checks out. But his speech following Obama's "You didn't build that" speech got the crowd excited, so maybe he's turned the corner.

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    1. I think Gary Johnson is polling a bit better than typical libertarians. If he's invited to any of the debates, he could get a few more of the "not paying attention to politics except for the debates" independents out there.

      And speaking of "checking out", there are many independents and former Obama supporters that are checking out when the president speaks too. So my #13 is probably negated to some degree.

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  4. Yes John, Obama is also part of the 1% but Democrats get away with crap like that all the time. Democrats are also the party of the wealthy, but that's not what the masses believe.

    Democrat elected leaders are also wealthier than Republican elected leaders, but again, they are the party of the poor and Republicans are the party of elites. It's all about marketing.

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    1. I did not realize that part of the democratic platform was a vow of poverty. I learn so much about how to be a good liberal from this site. I can't learn a damned thing about good liberalism from liberal sites. They don't have a clue what they believe. Fools think "party of the poor," as you put it, means they represent the poor better than the GOP does. If they knew that it really means they themselves should be poor, I doubt they would even keep this plank in their platform.

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    2. And I can't believe how much you pretend not to know the very party you vote for.

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    3. I do not pretend to not know the party I vote for. You keep implying that I and other liberals don't, and only you and other Republicans do. I must assume you would not lie, right?

      The concept of "party of the poor" means that we must be poor. I had no idea, until you enlightened me.

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    4. Then forgive me for giving you too much credit. Apparently you're not just playing dumb. I never said being the party of the poor meant Democrats had to be poor. You made it up.

      Let me know when you're ready to have a real conversation and don't just need to score rhetorical points.

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    5. Calling me dumb or accusing me of insincerity does nothing to improve your argument, assuming you have one.

      If democrats are the "party of the poor" it has nothing to do with the earnings of elected officials, a fact which you must already know. Pointing out the absurdity of this insinuation is not an attempt to "score rhetorical points."

      I was attempting to provoke you into arguing what you believe for the reason you believe it and to steer you away from partisan ranting. I will, per your implied request, try to not be tempted into such a thing again.

      I have no interest in your partisan rants, where you cull from the web one-sided partisan commentary. You have my apologies for commenting here.

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  5. You left out tax havens, perjury, signing an assault rifle ban while governor, his dingbat of a wife, the dog on top of a roof, his Olympics horse, "corporations are people, my friend," and that fact that Americans don't want to vote for the guy who looks like the guy who fired them.

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  6. I think number 11 is the best reason.

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  7. Bret, some are good but some are silly left-wing accusations that won't affect persuadable voters.

    14) Tax havens that weren't illegal. That last part matters. Although, again, marketing matters so if voters believe it, it's a factor that could mean Romney can't win.

    15) Perjury? What perjury?

    16) Signing an assault rifle ban. Yes, I see how this could piss off conservatives, but I don't think it's widely known.

    17) Dog on a roof is trumped by eating dogs as a child. I don't think this is a factor.

    18) "Corporations are people" definitely goes on the list even though it can be reasonably explained away.

    19) Don't want to work for a guy who looks like the guy who fired them. I don't know how real this is; it sounds more like a left-wing attack, not something people actually care about.

    Dingbat of a wife and an Olympic horse are not worth rebuttals. Come on!

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    1. "Corporations are people" and "You didn't build that" seem to wash each other out. Both were statements that are being taken out of context, although I would argue Romney's was more so.

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    2. CW, you're pretty fair minded even though we often disagree... you have to admit Obama's comments have NOT been taken out of context.

      Maybe it was a poorly constructed sentence; maybe Obama wishes he would have said it differently; maybe Obama wants us to think something else was meant, but the quote is what it is.

      I hear it quoted without any edits, in full context. It's still damning.

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  8. I don't think people hate tax havens because they think they're illegal... it's also not illegal to be a flip-flopper or a Mormon.

    The perjury calls are really adamant in some liberal circles. I guess if Republicans flip shit about lying over a blowjob, liberals don't feel bad about when someone lies about their involvement in a shady company.

    I don't think anyone but people who hated Obama beforehand care what Obama ate as a kid... but I also don't think anyone who liked Romney will think any less of him for putting a dog on the roof of his car for a long trip through horrible conditions. Though I would like to point out that if Obama disobeyed his father/his wife's boyfriend (I forget the exact relationship) and didn't eat the dog meat, I bet Republicans would criticize him for being an obstinate child.

    I think his wife isn't done saying dumb stuff to "you people."

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  9. For some reason, while I was reading this, I thought of this post again.

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  10. Bret said: "I guess if Republicans flip shit about lying over a blowjob"

    Actually, it wasn't the blowjob that got Clinton in trouble. It was his sexually harassing an employee and then committing perjury concerning it.

    " "corporations are people, my friend,"

    Romney was right. Corporations are made up 100% of people, each with Constitutional rights. This fact is lost on the zealous "Move to Amend" fascists and others who seek to make it a crime to criticize politicians. Yes, we still have our civil liberties, and the First Amendment makes no exception to censor people if they are associated with organizations we may or may not like.

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